Seriously though, those students (and even a teacher) at my university who couldn’t cut it in engineering tended to gravitate over to business. I can understand a certain level of smugness that engineers might have, since it is NOT an easy discipline, but arrogance should not be tolerated. That’s wonderful if you are good at what you do, but you don’t need to unnecessarily gloat about it. But to put things into perspective – I could probably do most of my co-workers’ jobs…the thing being that I don’t WANT to do their job.

After reading this post, I got the chills from remembering my last job. Very much of a sweat shop where people were put in their little boxes and not allowed out of them. As mentioned before, if given the wings to fly with creativity, do so! But some places (like my last place of employment) did not look overly fond upon developers trying to be ‘creative’ at all. Leave that to the creative staff, of course!

Though technically we’re a separate company (e-business), much of the time our workflow is dictated by the demands of the other part of the business, which gets very tiresome after the 12th (perhaps not quite..) website that we’ve had to pull days of unpaid overtime to get finished.

There are broken promises that it won’t happen again, and we’ll find ourselves back in the same place again, after work is held on to by the folks downstairs, and pushed up in a hurry when the client starts getting anxious.

I don’t think that folks should take offence at Matt’s post, just take it for what it is: a harmless rant. Carry on, nothing to see here… :)

Just kidding – If it’s any consolation, this kind of relationship applies to many walks of life. Management/business types suck hairy donkey balls – on the other hand they do the shit no one else wants to. Pretending to be “visionary” etc is their only hope of retaining some self-respect, so i just tend to let things lie.

I think it’s really tired to hear developers asking for more detailed specifications. That just means asking designers to lob an even bigger package over the wall. Don’t blame the specs, they are nothing more than a framework for a creative conversation. If you can only bear to communicate to a designer by sending notes though a manager, then something is seriously messed up where you work. It’s hard for any one to recognize your creativity if you are unwilling to speak to them.

It seems like the better solution is small multidisciplinary teams that work closely together throughout the process of creating an application. Agile development can really help as well, it’s made our web development team (programmers, designers and managers) much happier.

And I’ve ever met a designer who golfs. You need a better cliche!

Don’t you think this antisocial attitude of superiority might be causing some of your unhappiness?